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BEN OUI SI VRAIMENT C EST UN PASSIONNE POURQUOI S ACCROCHE T IL A NE PAS VOULOIR REPRENDRE UNE PARTIE DE SA MARCHANDISE...TU M EXCUSERAS MAIS CA REACTION EST CELLE D UN MEC QUI REGARDE QUE SON POGNON..ET PAS L ECHANGE
LOI FRANCAISE....TOUT OBJETS VENDU DOIT ETRE EN ETAT DE FONCTIONNER...DONC POURQUOI FAIT IL PAYER UNE GARANTIE SUPPLEMENTAIRE
LOI FRANCAISE....CE MESSIEUR EST UN FRAUDEUR .VU LE NOMBRE DE VENTE QU IL FAIT IL DEVRAIT ETRE DECLARE
LOI FRANCAISE....VU LE NOMBRE DE VENTE QU IL FAIT IL DEVRAIT ETRE DECLARE PROFESIONNEL ET DANS CE CAS UN RETOUR DE MARCHANDISE EST TOUJOUTRS POSSIBLE
ALORS IL A BEAU ETRE SYMPA (C EST TOI QUI LE DIS PÄRCE QUE TU N AS PAS DE LITIGE AVEC LUI).QU IL DIT QUE C EST UN MALENTENDU !!!!!!! MAIS QU ATTEND IL POUR REPRENDRE SES 2 LCD !!!!! c est du foutage de gueule. IL N A RIEN A FAIRE ICI AVEC CETTE MENTALITE ON NE VEUT PAS DE CONSEIL DE CE GENRE D INDIVIDU.ICI SI ON VEND UNE PIECE ET SI IL Y A UN SOUCI ON REPREND.ON EST PAS LA POUR CE FAIRE DU FRIC.ENFIN PAS PLUS....(quoique jai vu quelque chose y un mois ou deux qui m a un peu fait rager.mais bon ..)
DONC POUR MOI C EST REGLE....A LA FIN DE CE LITIGE TOUT DISPARAIT
BEN OUI SI VRAIMENT C EST UN PASSIONNE POURQUOI S ACCROCHE T IL A NE PAS VOULOIR REPRENDRE UNE PARTIE DE SA MARCHANDISE...TU M EXCUSERAS MAIS CA REACTION EST CELLE D UN MEC QUI REGARDE QUE SON POGNON..ET PAS L ECHANGE
LOI FRANCAISE....TOUT OBJETS VENDU DOIT ETRE EN ETAT DE FONCTIONNER...DONC POURQUOI FAIT IL PAYER UNE GARANTIE SUPPLEMENTAIRE
LOI FRANCAISE....CE MESSIEUR EST UN FRAUDEUR .VU LE NOMBRE DE VENTE QU IL FAIT IL DEVRAIT ETRE DECLARE
LOI FRANCAISE....VU LE NOMBRE DE VENTE QU IL FAIT IL DEVRAIT ETRE DECLARE PROFESIONNEL ET DANS CE CAS UN RETOUR DE MARCHANDISE EST TOUJOUTRS POSSIBLE
ALORS IL A BEAU ETRE SYMPA (C EST TOI QUI LE DIS PÄRCE QUE TU N AS PAS DE LITIGE AVEC LUI).QU IL DIT QUE C EST UN MALENTENDU !!!!!!! MAIS QU ATTEND IL POUR REPRENDRE SES 2 LCD !!!!! c est du foutage de gueule. IL N A RIEN A FAIRE ICI AVEC CETTE MENTALITE ON NE VEUT PAS DE CONSEIL DE CE GENRE D INDIVIDU.ICI SI ON VEND UNE PIECE ET SI IL Y A UN SOUCI ON REPREND.ON EST PAS LA POUR CE FAIRE DU FRIC.ENFIN PAS PLUS....(quoique jai vu quelque chose y un mois ou deux qui m a un peu fait rager.mais bon ..)
DONC POUR MOI C EST REGLE....A LA FIN DE CE LITIGE TOUT DISPARAIT
Je ne dis pas le contraire de toute façon loi française: on à 7 jours pour annulé une vente sur internet donc tout est réglé
lol...5Ilami est tout à fait dans son droit d'annuler la vente sans motif!)
Après ça n'est pas à moi de dire s'il a sa place ici mais je pense qu'il peut la trouver s'il change un peu et qu'on ne lui ferme pas la porte...
Tout le monde peut être maladroit et faire des erreurs... (surtout quand on ne peut pas communiquer dans la même langue lol)

Après ça n'est pas à moi de dire s'il a sa place ici mais je pense qu'il peut la trouver s'il change un peu et qu'on ne lui ferme pas la porte...

depuis le temps qu il a ce litige si il avait voulu ca aurait pu etre regle depuis longtemps..meme avec un probleme de langue
ps.... j aimerai avoir le lien eBay...merci
ps.... j aimerai avoir le lien eBay...merci
J'espère juste que Marcel va lui reprendre les produits et qu'il s'excusera en public lynché Ilami pour un litige qui ne concerne qu'eux (peu importe le fautif)

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For the record!
This person is the mistake and not me!
Like you members can see on ebay/facebook and more. iam a person who loves the W201 models more then most of you! I also have a name sign bord by my front door with my name and the name of my girlfriend in the shape of a Mercedes 16v!
Iam spending more money on the car then i drive it!
After a long time i found a solution to make the Laptimers working again so iam offering a repair service for it on ebay!
And here is the problem! Sahin the buyer didnt read it ad! I putted it online in german and english. 1 of those 2 he had the change to use Google Translate! i told him 5 times over the phone and 5 times in the email thats its a repair part and not a complete part!
So who made the mistake!? Not me! and know he is telling paypal and ebay that i did it wrong!? Sorry dude but you made a mistake and not me! Now this person makes a case on paypal so i cant do anything with my account and iam also needing the account to pay for objects i bought on ebay!
So Sahin close this case or leave it with paypal and ebay! I provided them all the provement i got includiing the tracking bill that i did 100% my part and that the problem is you.
Onces you close the case and tell paypal that you was the mistake then i will place here on the board the Good results and give you my apoligie, otherweise not because you are making a mistake! and we have to wait what paypal will do. But now you are doing it this way with your creditcard company, and thats just scam!
What he is doing now is this:
Buying things on ebay, once they got it the make a case in paypal and not ebay and thats the trick! When he does it in paypal with his creditcard he can have the money back in case the seller cannot prove he didnt send it! But i can prove it so this time you want get your money back! otherweise i lost my products, i payed for the shipping and i lost my money and ebay en paypal costs!!!!!
So people do not judge me about this but i want to warn you about this thing,
Sahin, close this case on paypal and we can solve the thing with your name. Otherweise ill wait what paypal is doing because i know and believe i did it 100% right.
Greetings and iam very upsaid that in 10 years buying and selling on the internet i have this wors case now with sahin and i want to close this and make it a happy result for both......
This person is the mistake and not me!
Like you members can see on ebay/facebook and more. iam a person who loves the W201 models more then most of you! I also have a name sign bord by my front door with my name and the name of my girlfriend in the shape of a Mercedes 16v!
Iam spending more money on the car then i drive it!
After a long time i found a solution to make the Laptimers working again so iam offering a repair service for it on ebay!
And here is the problem! Sahin the buyer didnt read it ad! I putted it online in german and english. 1 of those 2 he had the change to use Google Translate! i told him 5 times over the phone and 5 times in the email thats its a repair part and not a complete part!
So who made the mistake!? Not me! and know he is telling paypal and ebay that i did it wrong!? Sorry dude but you made a mistake and not me! Now this person makes a case on paypal so i cant do anything with my account and iam also needing the account to pay for objects i bought on ebay!
So Sahin close this case or leave it with paypal and ebay! I provided them all the provement i got includiing the tracking bill that i did 100% my part and that the problem is you.
Onces you close the case and tell paypal that you was the mistake then i will place here on the board the Good results and give you my apoligie, otherweise not because you are making a mistake! and we have to wait what paypal will do. But now you are doing it this way with your creditcard company, and thats just scam!
What he is doing now is this:
Buying things on ebay, once they got it the make a case in paypal and not ebay and thats the trick! When he does it in paypal with his creditcard he can have the money back in case the seller cannot prove he didnt send it! But i can prove it so this time you want get your money back! otherweise i lost my products, i payed for the shipping and i lost my money and ebay en paypal costs!!!!!
So people do not judge me about this but i want to warn you about this thing,
Sahin, close this case on paypal and we can solve the thing with your name. Otherweise ill wait what paypal is doing because i know and believe i did it 100% right.
Greetings and iam very upsaid that in 10 years buying and selling on the internet i have this wors case now with sahin and i want to close this and make it a happy result for both......
marcel
oui il a peut etre fait une erreur
sur eBay l acheteur a le droit de retourner les objets achetes...le transport ne lui sera pas rembourse et il doit payer le retour....mais toi tu dois lui reprendre !!!
le regelment est comme ca...vous devez le respecter ...et meme si c était pas le cas en temps que passionne de 190 tu devrais accepter l erreur de sahim..si tu n en est pas capable comment peux tu revenir sur le forum..
sahim doit te payer ce qu il garde et renvoyer a ses frais le reste...tu dois accepter ca
donc
-si tu ne veux pas lui reprendre t es un arnaqueur
-si il ne veux pas te payer ce qu il garde c est un arnaqueur
IL Y A BIEN MARQUE RETROUR ACCEPTER !!!! ou j ai des probleme de vue .
et http://pages.ebay.co.uk/safetycentre/rights.html#change
What if you change your mind?
Distance Selling Regulations
The Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000 generally apply to sales to consumers made by sellers acting in the course of a business, which have been made at a distance. In other words, where there's no face-to-face contact between the seller and the consumer before the contract is made. The Distance Selling Regulations apply to items purchased via Buy It Now listings and Second Chance Offers on eBay.co.uk. However, they don't apply to auction format listings on eBay.co.uk.
The Regulations also provide a period of seven working days after the date of receipt within which the consumer can cancel the contract (often referred to as the "cooling off" period) and get their money back, including the original postage and packing charges. The consumer can be asked to return the goods at their own expense, but only if the seller informed them of this requirement before the contract was made (otherwise, the seller is responsible for collecting the goods). If a business seller has not provided the information required under the Distance Selling Regulations (as discussed above), the buyer will have up to 3 months to cancel the contract and get their money back.
The cancellation rights do not apply to certain items including software, audio or video recordings that have been unsealed, perishable goods such as food or flowers, or items that have been made to order.
To get a general idea of the laws governing distance sales, we recommend that you review BIS's summary of the Regulations.
Both the Citizen's Advice Bureau and the Office of Fair Trading also provide advice on your rights when shopping online.
par contre ca c est pas legal
Other - See seller's payment instructions
Seller's payment instructions
Only return when a part is broken. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-190-16v-LCD-replacement-laptimer-stopwatch-stoppuhr-w201-2-3-16-2-5-16-/181178155194#shId
tarif eBay ....60 livres = 70 euo............livraison gratuite......... X 4..................280 euro !!!! et promo eBay ... When you need more then 3 i can make you a special price!
oui il a peut etre fait une erreur
sur eBay l acheteur a le droit de retourner les objets achetes...le transport ne lui sera pas rembourse et il doit payer le retour....mais toi tu dois lui reprendre !!!
le regelment est comme ca...vous devez le respecter ...et meme si c était pas le cas en temps que passionne de 190 tu devrais accepter l erreur de sahim..si tu n en est pas capable comment peux tu revenir sur le forum..
sahim doit te payer ce qu il garde et renvoyer a ses frais le reste...tu dois accepter ca
donc
-si tu ne veux pas lui reprendre t es un arnaqueur
-si il ne veux pas te payer ce qu il garde c est un arnaqueur
IL Y A BIEN MARQUE RETROUR ACCEPTER !!!! ou j ai des probleme de vue .
et http://pages.ebay.co.uk/safetycentre/rights.html#change
What if you change your mind?
Distance Selling Regulations
The Consumer Protection (Distance Selling) Regulations 2000 generally apply to sales to consumers made by sellers acting in the course of a business, which have been made at a distance. In other words, where there's no face-to-face contact between the seller and the consumer before the contract is made. The Distance Selling Regulations apply to items purchased via Buy It Now listings and Second Chance Offers on eBay.co.uk. However, they don't apply to auction format listings on eBay.co.uk.
The Regulations also provide a period of seven working days after the date of receipt within which the consumer can cancel the contract (often referred to as the "cooling off" period) and get their money back, including the original postage and packing charges. The consumer can be asked to return the goods at their own expense, but only if the seller informed them of this requirement before the contract was made (otherwise, the seller is responsible for collecting the goods). If a business seller has not provided the information required under the Distance Selling Regulations (as discussed above), the buyer will have up to 3 months to cancel the contract and get their money back.
The cancellation rights do not apply to certain items including software, audio or video recordings that have been unsealed, perishable goods such as food or flowers, or items that have been made to order.
To get a general idea of the laws governing distance sales, we recommend that you review BIS's summary of the Regulations.
Both the Citizen's Advice Bureau and the Office of Fair Trading also provide advice on your rights when shopping online.
par contre ca c est pas legal
Other - See seller's payment instructions
Seller's payment instructions
Only return when a part is broken. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-190-16v-LCD-replacement-laptimer-stopwatch-stoppuhr-w201-2-3-16-2-5-16-/181178155194#shId
tarif eBay ....60 livres = 70 euo............livraison gratuite......... X 4..................280 euro !!!! et promo eBay ... When you need more then 3 i can make you a special price!
deja eu des soucis
http://www.w201-16v.de/w201/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5902&sid=99217bba7690fccd678090f6d422dcc4&start=100
et pour moi ca c est un pro
http://www.marceldeijkers.nl/
et vous pouvez meme l achete moins cher
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-190-16v-LCD-replacement-laptimer-stopwatch-stoppuhr-w201-2-3-16-2-5-16-/181160050676?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a2dfafff4
combien sahim a payer
http://www.w201-16v.de/w201/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=5902&sid=99217bba7690fccd678090f6d422dcc4&start=100
et pour moi ca c est un pro
http://www.marceldeijkers.nl/
et vous pouvez meme l achete moins cher
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-190-16v-LCD-replacement-laptimer-stopwatch-stoppuhr-w201-2-3-16-2-5-16-/181160050676?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2a2dfafff4
combien sahim a payer
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Groupe: Visiteur
So what about that?
Did you also check my other post on:
W201club About 1500 post with alot of help and tips to other W201 members ? and some more websites ? I provide more information and knowlegde then most of the members here know about the W201 car.
Before you judge do your homework, yes iam offering those screens because i had the problem for 4 years! Not 1 made 1 solution so i did it myself, now i have the solution and there are always people who dont like it! If you dont like it leave it. But i can tell you i made alot of people happy with there repaired laptimers, even daimler.
So you always will have 2 sides, 1 likes it the other dont. Well if you dont like it or want to then leave it for the people who like it.
But with more then 10 years experience with the W201 cars and buying/selling on the internet i never had problems until this guy showed up. So i know what the problem is and give all the information to paypal.
For the record, you should also check my 350 positive ebay feedbacks first? or all the happy members who did read the ad well on ebay????
pls i can upload more then 10000 pictures of projects i did on w201 cars so you can see iam more into this then most of you
Totaly stripped it and rebuild it
Vos photos n'ont rien à faire dans ce post !!!!
Did you also check my other post on:
W201club About 1500 post with alot of help and tips to other W201 members ? and some more websites ? I provide more information and knowlegde then most of the members here know about the W201 car.
Before you judge do your homework, yes iam offering those screens because i had the problem for 4 years! Not 1 made 1 solution so i did it myself, now i have the solution and there are always people who dont like it! If you dont like it leave it. But i can tell you i made alot of people happy with there repaired laptimers, even daimler.
So you always will have 2 sides, 1 likes it the other dont. Well if you dont like it or want to then leave it for the people who like it.
But with more then 10 years experience with the W201 cars and buying/selling on the internet i never had problems until this guy showed up. So i know what the problem is and give all the information to paypal.
For the record, you should also check my 350 positive ebay feedbacks first? or all the happy members who did read the ad well on ebay????
pls i can upload more then 10000 pictures of projects i did on w201 cars so you can see iam more into this then most of you

Vos photos n'ont rien à faire dans ce post !!!!
oui 350 positves... et alors !! aujourd hui y a un probleme et tu dois respecter la loi...si tu ne veux pas c est normal qu il bloque l argent...
removes your pictures .. no in this post !!!!
i can upload more then 10000 pictures of projects......it s not my problem...my problem it s the claim with sahim
removes your pictures .. no in this post !!!!
i can upload more then 10000 pictures of projects......it s not my problem...my problem it s the claim with sahim
do you accept return 2 lcd !
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@ Cephilea,
I sended you a message, please read that, about the price you know to understand how ebay and paypal are charging costs before you judge and by that time i only offered that service for €90 each. So i stop now on this tread. i leave it to paypal now. I know what i didt and what i provided that was right so i wont place any reactions on this topic anymore before i have news from paypal. So if sahin works with that one we can find a solution and when we have that it will be placed on the board and everyone is happy.
Greetings
I sended you a message, please read that, about the price you know to understand how ebay and paypal are charging costs before you judge and by that time i only offered that service for €90 each. So i stop now on this tread. i leave it to paypal now. I know what i didt and what i provided that was right so i wont place any reactions on this topic anymore before i have news from paypal. So if sahin works with that one we can find a solution and when we have that it will be placed on the board and everyone is happy.
Greetings
see
Je pense que c'est un problème de compréhension,
Si sahim pensait avoir 4 chrono pour 90e, je pense qu'il faisait erreur
j'espère que ça va se régler vite, bon courage a vous
Si sahim pensait avoir 4 chrono pour 90e, je pense qu'il faisait erreur
j'espère que ça va se régler vite, bon courage a vous
Ha ha ha ha Marcel nous sort son prix d'amis sur le fofo, en nous le faisant payer cher que sur Ebay !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Non mon Fred, Sahine à payer 4X 90 roros soit 360 roros en s'imaginant recevoir 4 chrono, et
Pour Phil : il a payer via Paypal, mais à fait bloquer le compte à cause du litige, mais les sous sont bien sur le compte de Marcel. En tout cas édifiant et très instructif les liens que tu nous as mis ( surtout celui de Hunger )
Je sais comment ça va finir moi ... une fois tout rentré dans l'ordre LOOOOOL
Non mon Fred, Sahine à payer 4X 90 roros soit 360 roros en s'imaginant recevoir 4 chrono, et
Pour Phil : il a payer via Paypal, mais à fait bloquer le compte à cause du litige, mais les sous sont bien sur le compte de Marcel. En tout cas édifiant et très instructif les liens que tu nous as mis ( surtout celui de Hunger )
Je sais comment ça va finir moi ... une fois tout rentré dans l'ordre LOOOOOL
Les mecs qui se pointent pour faire du business faut les sortir et c est tout
c 'est un club , pas une boutique ou une brocante...
c 'est un club , pas une boutique ou une brocante...
marcel ne peut plus annuler la vente car sahine a fait une reclamation aupres de paypal.donc tout est bloque....
marcel se propose de renvoyer la difference du prix des chronos (prix actuel d eBay et somme payee par sahine) soit 60 euro
marcel se propose de renvoyer la difference du prix des chronos (prix actuel d eBay et somme payee par sahine) soit 60 euro
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